my apologies... after I sent the message I checked another box and see 
that 12knam is fine :-)
the box i was working on had some disk issues that have been resolved... 
however this does not solve Phil Bernies problem with the lower 
resolution products (which I do not use) :)
sorry for the inconvenience!
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