Re: [mcidas-x] [External] Re: How can I add new stations to the surface station database?

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    <div class="moz-signature">Hi Gilbert,&nbsp;<br>
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      Do you have everything you need now?&nbsp; Is it reading STNDB.USER
      correctly?&nbsp; We do have an updated version of STNDB.CORE from
      December 2025, if that will help.&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
      <br>
      Becky<br>
      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/19/2026 10:09 PM, Sebenste,
      Gilbert wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">OK. I did that, and discovered that I had
          nearly 200 missing stations in the database. In
          /home/mcidas/data, I see:<br>
          <br>
          -rwxrwxr-x 2 mcidas mcidas 7094900 Dec 31&nbsp; 2022 STNDB.CORE*<br>
          <br>
          And yet, I had a bunch missing from 2017-2026…and probably
          further back, that I put in my
          <br>
          /home/mcidas/workdata/STNDB.USER. That’s odd, since it was
          supposedly updated in 2022 (shrug).<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Gilbert
              Sebenste<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Meteorology
              Support Analyst<br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span 
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                Mike Zuranski <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx";>&lt;zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</a>
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                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2026 8:37 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Sebenste, Gilbert <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx";>&lt;sebensteg@xxxxxxx&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:mcidas-x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mcidas-x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [mcidas-x] How can I add
                new stations to the surface station 
database?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Gilbert,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">From the
                McIDAS-X docs:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="gmail-body-text">STNPLOT uses the station
                  database files <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNDB.CORE</span></strong>,
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNDB.SITE</span></strong>
                  and
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNDB.USER</span></strong>.
                  The
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.CORE</span></strong>
                  file is supplied with McIDAS-X and should not be
                  modified. The
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                  file overrides the
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                  file, which overrides the
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.CORE</span></strong>
                  file. This order of precedence allows you or your site
                  to change existing stations and/or add new stations in
                  your
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                  or <strong>
                    <span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                  file.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="gmail-body-text"><a name="pgfId-1070491" 
moz-do-not-send="true"></a>To create a <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                  or
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                  file, first run a command similar to the following to
                  create the file in the first writable
                  <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">MCPATH</span></strong>
                  directory.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p><strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNLIST
                      KMSN FORM=USER DEV=T STNDB.USER 
A</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="gmail-body-text"><a name="pgfId-1070492" 
moz-do-not-send="true"></a><a name="pgfId-1070493" 
moz-do-not-send="true"></a>The file contains one
                  long line that defines the data for station KMSN. An
                  equal sign (=) denotes the value of each of the 10
                  fields (IDN, ID, LATLON, ULATLON, ELE, UELE, ST, CO,
                  NAME, and DATATYPE). Replace the values in the KMSN
                  entry with those for your station and add lines as
                  needed for additional stations. Entries do not have to
                  include all ten fields. The required fields are LATLON
                  and at least one of the following: ID, IDN, USERID.
                  Other fields like CO, ST and NAME are useful but not
                  required. Note that you
                  <u>must</u> follow the one-entry-per-line format for
                  all stations in your <strong>
                    <span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                  and <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                  files. Line breaks are not permitted.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><a 
href="https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/doc/users_guide/current/stnplot.html"; 
moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/doc/users_guide/current/stnplot.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">That is just from one cursory
                search.&nbsp; The long and short of it is you do not edit the
                .CORE file, you create a .SITE and/or a .USER 
file.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">-Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 8:29<span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"> </span>PM
                Sebenste, Gilbert &lt;<a href="mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx"; 
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sebensteg@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      everyone,<br>
                      <br>
                      STNDB.CORE is a binary file, and can’t be updated
                      with new stations. Is there another file I can use
                      to add to the new stations that have come online
                      since early 2024?<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Gilbert Sebenste</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" 
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt">Meteorology Support
                        Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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