Re: [mcidas-x] [External] Re: How can I add new stations to the surface station database?

  • To: "Sebenste, Gilbert" <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [mcidas-x] [External] Re: How can I add new stations to the surface station database?
  • From: Becky Schaffer <beckys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 15:29:58 -0500
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    <div class="moz-signature">Hi Gilbert,&nbsp;<br>
      <br>
      You should be able to grab the December 2025 STNDB.CORE from
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://bin.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/incoming/STNDB.CORE";>https://bin.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/incoming/STNDB.CORE</a><br>
      <br>
      Becky<br>
      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/21/2026 2:03 PM, Sebenste, Gilbert
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Oops, sorry…yes, it is reading STNDB.USER
          correctly! <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Gilbert
              Sebenste<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Meteorology
              Support Analyst<br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span 
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                Becky Schaffer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:beckys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>&lt;beckys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</a>
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                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 21, 2026 2:01 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Sebenste, Gilbert <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx";>&lt;sebensteg@xxxxxxx&gt;</a>;
                'Mike Zuranski' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx";>&lt;zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:mcidas-x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mcidas-x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [mcidas-x] [External] Re: How can I
                add new stations to the surface station 
database?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi 
Gilbert,&nbsp;<br>
            <br>
            Do you have everything you need now?&nbsp; Is it reading
            STNDB.USER correctly?&nbsp; We do have an updated version of
            STNDB.CORE from December 2025, if that will help.&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
            <br>
            Becky<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 5/19/2026 10:09 PM, Sebenste, Gilbert
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">OK. I did that, and discovered that I had
            nearly 200 missing stations in the database. In
            /home/mcidas/data, I see:<br>
            <br>
            -rwxrwxr-x 2 mcidas mcidas 7094900 Dec 31&nbsp; 2022 STNDB.CORE*<br>
            <br>
            And yet, I had a bunch missing from 2017-2026…and probably
            further back, that I put in my
            <br>
            /home/mcidas/workdata/STNDB.USER. That’s odd, since it was
            supposedly updated in 2022 (shrug).<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Gilbert
                Sebenste</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Meteorology
                Support Analyst<br>
                <br>
                <br>
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span 
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                  Mike Zuranski
                  <a href="mailto:zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</a>
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2026 8:37 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Sebenste, Gilbert <a 
href="mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;sebensteg@xxxxxxx&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:mcidas-x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mcidas-x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [mcidas-x] How can I
                  add new stations to the surface station 
database?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Gilbert,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">From
                  the McIDAS-X docs:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="gmail-body-text">STNPLOT uses the station
                    database files <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNDB.CORE</span></strong>,
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNDB.SITE</span></strong>
                    and
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNDB.USER</span></strong>.
                    The
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.CORE</span></strong>
                    file is supplied with McIDAS-X and should not be
                    modified. The
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                    file overrides the
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                    file, which overrides the
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.CORE</span></strong>
                    file. This order of precedence allows you or your
                    site to change existing stations and/or add new
                    stations in your
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                    or <strong>
                      <span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                    file.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="gmail-body-text"><a name="pgfId-1070491" 
moz-do-not-send="true"></a>To create a <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                    or
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                    file, first run a command similar to the following
                    to create the file in the first writable
                    <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">MCPATH</span></strong>
                    directory.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p><strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">STNLIST
                        KMSN FORM=USER DEV=T STNDB.USER 
A</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="gmail-body-text"><a name="pgfId-1070492" 
moz-do-not-send="true"></a><a name="pgfId-1070493" 
moz-do-not-send="true"></a>The file contains one
                    long line that defines the data for station KMSN. An
                    equal sign (=) denotes the value of each of the 10
                    fields (IDN, ID, LATLON, ULATLON, ELE, UELE, ST, CO,
                    NAME, and DATATYPE). Replace the values in the KMSN
                    entry with those for your station and add lines as
                    needed for additional stations. Entries do not have
                    to include all ten fields. The required fields are
                    LATLON and at least one of the following: ID, IDN,
                    USERID. Other fields like CO, ST and NAME are useful
                    but not required. Note that you
                    <u>must</u> follow the one-entry-per-line format for
                    all stations in your <strong>
                      <span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.USER</span></strong>
                    and <strong><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">.SITE</span></strong>
                    files. Line breaks are not permitted.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><a 
href="https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/doc/users_guide/current/stnplot.html"; 
moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/mcidas/doc/users_guide/current/stnplot.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">That is just from one cursory
                  search.&nbsp; The long and short of it is you do not edit
                  the .CORE file, you create a .SITE and/or a .USER
                  file.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">-Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 8:29<span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"> </span>PM
                  Sebenste, Gilbert &lt;<a href="mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx"; 
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sebensteg@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Good evening
                        everyone,<br>
                        <br>
                        STNDB.CORE is a binary file, and can’t be
                        updated with new stations. Is there another file
                        I can use to add to the new stations that have
                        come online since early 2024?<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Gilbert Sebenste</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Meteorology Support
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